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Please note that there is contention regarding the true date of this audio. This FM broadcast as well as the 17.5-track soundboard recording are labelled as 1984-11-02, but depmod.com claims this London audio as being from 1984-11-03.
Please note that there is contention regarding the true date of this audio. This FM broadcast as well as the 17.5-track soundboard recording are labelled as 1984-11-02, but depmod.com claims this London audio as being from 1984-11-03.


*The audio from all three sources (pre-FM vinyl and its "A Quick One" CD bootleg, this FM broadcast recording, and the 17.5-track soundboard recording) all match, so the only question is the date.
*The audio from all three sources (the BBC pre-FM vinyl and its "A Quick One" CD bootleg, the FM broadcast recording, and the 17.5-track soundboard recording) all match, so the only question is the date.
*There are no cuesheet scans from the original BBC pre-FM promotional vinyl and no recording of any radio announcer mentioning the date of the concert.
*The cue sheet from the original BBC pre-FM promotional vinyl does not mention the date (see below for scans, thanks to Dennis Burmeister).
*I have asked Brat (webmaster of depechemode.com) but he does not have a copy of the original pressing vinyl including cuesheet, nor does he have any leads on tracking down the correct info and management would be of no help either.
*There is no FM broadcast recording that includes a radio announcer mentioning the date of the concert; if you have a more complete recording of the original FM broadcast, please let me know!
*I have asked Brat (webmaster of depechemode.com) but does not have any leads on tracking down the correct info and management would be of no help either.
*PeterToo's tape of the 17.5 track soundboard is labelled 1984-11-02.
*PeterToo's tape of the 17.5 track soundboard is labelled 1984-11-02.
*twoshed's FM broadcast tape is labelled 1984-11-02. That date was retrieved from an old section on BBC's website, which is unfortunately not even available on archive.org. The BBC's site does not have a perfect track record for accuracy. Also, there is no announcer intro/outro on that FM broadcast tape which may have the date spoken).
*twoshed's FM broadcast tape is labelled 1984-11-02. That date was retrieved from an old section on BBC's website, which is unfortunately not even available on archive.org. The BBC's site does not have a perfect track record for accuracy. Also, there is no announcer intro/outro on his FM broadcast tape which may have the date spoken.
*There are no audience recordings from either 1984-11-02 or 1984-11-03 to check the audio sources against; if you have an audience recording from these dates or even any of the four nights DM played at Hammersmith during this tour, please let me know!


So, the only question is where depmod.com came up with 1984-11-03 as the date. I've requested scans of the original cuesheet on their forums, but nobody has come forth with any so far. Thus, for the time being, I will label this audio as 1984-11-03 until proof can be furnished confirming the date. I don't want to change the accepted date of this recording without concrete evidence; in my eyes, that will be the original cuesheet that was with the BBC original pressing vinyl.
So, the only question is where depmod.com came up with 1984-11-03 as the date. Ffor the time being, I will label this audio as 1984-11-03 until proof can be furnished confirming the date. I don't want to change the accepted date of this recording without concrete evidence.
 
=== Cue sheets and LP scans ===
Scans credit to Dennis Burmeister.
 
<gallery mode=nolines>
InConcert345CueSheet-1.jpg|Original pressing BBC pre-FM vinyl cue sheet, page 1
InConcert345CueSheet-2.jpg|Original pressing BBC pre-FM vinyl cue sheet, page 2
InConcert345-A.jpg|Original pressing BBC pre-FM vinyl, side A
InConcert345-B.jpg|Original pressing BBC pre-FM vinyl, side B
</gallery>


== Set list ==
== Set list ==

Revision as of 10:27, 1 November 2015

Notes

Depeche Mode's third out of four nights at the Hammersmith Odeon during their 1984-1985 Some Great Reward Tour. Two soundboard recordings and an FM broadcast master tape recording are available, detailed below.

Please note that there is contention regarding the true date of this audio. This FM broadcast as well as the 17.5-track soundboard recording are labelled as 1984-11-02, but depmod.com claims this London audio as being from 1984-11-03.

  • The audio from all three sources (the BBC pre-FM vinyl and its "A Quick One" CD bootleg, the FM broadcast recording, and the 17.5-track soundboard recording) all match, so the only question is the date.
  • The cue sheet from the original BBC pre-FM promotional vinyl does not mention the date (see below for scans, thanks to Dennis Burmeister).
  • There is no FM broadcast recording that includes a radio announcer mentioning the date of the concert; if you have a more complete recording of the original FM broadcast, please let me know!
  • I have asked Brat (webmaster of depechemode.com) but does not have any leads on tracking down the correct info and management would be of no help either.
  • PeterToo's tape of the 17.5 track soundboard is labelled 1984-11-02.
  • twoshed's FM broadcast tape is labelled 1984-11-02. That date was retrieved from an old section on BBC's website, which is unfortunately not even available on archive.org. The BBC's site does not have a perfect track record for accuracy. Also, there is no announcer intro/outro on his FM broadcast tape which may have the date spoken.
  • There are no audience recordings from either 1984-11-02 or 1984-11-03 to check the audio sources against; if you have an audience recording from these dates or even any of the four nights DM played at Hammersmith during this tour, please let me know!

So, the only question is where depmod.com came up with 1984-11-03 as the date. Ffor the time being, I will label this audio as 1984-11-03 until proof can be furnished confirming the date. I don't want to change the accepted date of this recording without concrete evidence.

Cue sheets and LP scans

Scans credit to Dennis Burmeister.

Set list

  1. Intro (Master And Servant Voxless)
  2. Something To Do
  3. Two Minute Warning
  4. Puppets
  5. If You Want
  6. People Are People
  7. Leave In Silence
  8. New Life
  9. Shame
  10. Somebody (*)
  11. Ice Machine
  12. Lie To Me
  13. Blasphemous Rumours
  14. Told You So
  15. Master And Servant
  16. Photographic
  17. Everything Counts
  18. See You
  19. Shout
  20. Just Can't Get Enough

Sources

  • Source 1 is sourced from a promotional BBC pre-FM vinyl containing 12 tracks. Sound is flawless.
  • Source 2 is sourced from an 17.5-track reference tape made for the band, with a very raw sounding mix. See You is only about 20 seconds long, and Shout and Just Can't Get Enough are entirely missing.
  • Source 3 is an FM broadcast master tape and contains Blasphemous Rumours not found on the pre-FM vinyl.