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This song was written by Jason Knott, Vince Clarke's friend and fellow musician from Basildon. This track was performed from the [[:Category:1980 Tour|1980 Tour]] through the [[:Category:1982 See You Tour|1982 See You Tour]]. The song was never recorded in the studio and does not appear on any official release due to the fact that it was not written by Vince or Martin (thanks to [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Depeche-Mode-Information-Service-1981/342571782527621 Deb Danahay] and [https://www.facebook.com/basildon.newtown.newlife/photos/pb.331901540246965.-2207520000.1443984463./442660712504380/?type=3&theater Basildon: New Town - New Life] for that information). Several excellent live recordings of the track as well as a short excerpt of Vince Clarke's demo can be heard [[#Full track sample|below]]. [[#Lyrics|Full lyrics are also available]].
This song was written by Jason Knott, Vince Clarke's friend and fellow musician from Basildon. This track was performed from the [[:Category:1980 Tour|1980 Tour]] through the [[:Category:1982 See You Tour|1982 See You Tour]]. The song was never recorded in the studio and does not appear on any official release due to the fact that it was not written by Vince or Martin (thanks to [https://www.facebook.com/pages/Depeche-Mode-Information-Service-1981/342571782527621 Deb Danahay] and [https://www.facebook.com/basildon.newtown.newlife/photos/pb.331901540246965.-2207520000.1443984463./442660712504380/?type=3&theater Basildon: New Town - New Life] for that information). Several excellent live recordings of the track as well as a short excerpt of Vince Clarke's demo can be heard [[#Demo excerpt|below]]. [[#Lyrics|Full lyrics are also available]].


From [https://www.facebook.com/basildon.newtown.newlife/photos/pb.331901540246965.-2207520000.1443984463./442660712504380/?type=3&theater Basildon: New Town - New Life]:
From [https://www.facebook.com/basildon.newtown.newlife/photos/pb.331901540246965.-2207520000.1443984463./442660712504380/?type=3&theater Basildon: New Town - New Life]:


[[File:NRICTVSet.jpg|thumb|right|x240px|[[No Romance In China]]'s original demo tape for [[Television Set]] - credit to '''[https://www.facebook.com/basildon.newtown.newlife/photos/pb.331901540246965.-2207520000.1443984463./442660712504380/?type=3&theater Basildon: New Town - New Life]''']]
[[File:NRICTVSet.jpg|thumb|right|x240px|[[No Romance In China]]'s original demo tape for [[Television Set]] - photo credit to '''[https://www.facebook.com/basildon.newtown.newlife/photos/pb.331901540246965.-2207520000.1443984463./442660712504380/?type=3&theater Basildon: New Town - New Life]''']]


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'Television Set' was written by Basildon musician Jason Knott. Jason was in a local band called 'The Neatelllls' (spelt with 4 L's) which also included well known Basildon drummer Peter Hobbs. Although they never actually formed a band together, Jason, Peter and Vince Clarke did rehearse together a number of times and this is how Vince got to hear the song.
'Television Set' was written by Basildon musician Jason Knott. Jason was in a local band called 'The Neatelllls' (spelt with 4 L's) which also included well known Basildon drummer Peter Hobbs. Although they never actually formed a band together, Jason, Peter and Vince Clarke did rehearse together a number of times and this is how Vince got to hear the song.


Vince took the song through a number of incarnations, firstly a recording with friend Sue Paget (his bandmate in [[No Romance In China]]) with Vince on guitar & vocals and Sue on Bass. The first ever live version of TV Set was performed at 'The Double Six' Pub in Basildon at '[[No Romance In China]]'s' only gig featuring Vince, Sue & Peter. A second recorded version was a solo demo track made by Vince, sounding completely different, made with a synthesizer, drum machine and Vince's vocals. Finally, Vince introduced the song into his new band Depeche Mode.
Vince took the song through a number of incarnations, firstly a recording with friend Sue Paget (his bandmate in [[No Romance In China]]) with Vince on guitar & vocals and Sue on Bass. The first ever live version of TV Set was performed at 'The Double Six' Pub in Basildon at '[[No Romance In China]]'s' only gig featuring Vince, Sue & Peter. A [[Demos & Studio Outtakes#Television Set (Demo)|second recorded version]] was a solo demo track made by Vince, sounding completely different, made with a synthesizer, drum machine and Vince's vocals. Finally, Vince introduced the song into his new band Depeche Mode.


The photo shows the original cassette by '[[No Romance In China]]' that contains their recording of T.V.Set. As you can see its has been recorded over a copy of 'The Cure's Three Imaginary Boys', Vince's favourite band at the time. Many thanks to Sue for providing the photo.
The photo shows the original cassette by '[[No Romance In China]]' that contains their recording of T.V.Set. As you can see its has been recorded over a copy of 'The Cure's Three Imaginary Boys', Vince's favourite band at the time. Many thanks to Sue for providing the photo.
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[[File:bong24-15.jpg|thumb|right|x180px|Bong Magazine Issue 24, Page 15]]
[[File:bong24-15.jpg|thumb|right|x180px|[[BONG 24|BONG magazine, issue 24]], page 15]]
Susan Ryder Paget also recollects about the tape:
Susan Ryder Paget also recollects about the tape:


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It might be possible that Martin Gore befriended Jason Knott first and that Vince Clarke got to know Jason Knott through Martin, because when [[Norman & The Worms]] did a school gig in summer 1978, The Neatelllls supported them, and afterwards, Phil and Martin from Norman & The Worms asked The Neatelllls' drummer Pete Hobbs to join their band. Robert Marlow told [https://books.google.com/books?id=8dlapcBLwu0C Jonathan Miller]: "There was another local band at school at the same time as Norman and The Worms that Martin also played in, together with two hippies. I can't remember their names but one of them wrote "Television Set"." This means that, in return for borrowing Pete Hobbs from The Neatellls, Martin occasionally played for The Neatelllls, and subsequently heard 'Television Set'. Marlow continued: "Martin wrote a catchy synth riff to [Television Set] so it ended up in [Depeche Mode's] set." Vince Clarke himself also told Jonathan Miller: "Television Set was written by a friend of Martin's. I don't know how or why [Depeche Mode] got it but we used to perform it. I think we decided not to record it because we weren't getting any publishing for it, otherwise we probably would have recorded it for the first Depeche Mode album."
It might be possible that Martin Gore befriended Jason Knott first and that Vince Clarke got to know Jason Knott through Martin, because when [[Norman & The Worms]] did a school gig in summer 1978, The Neatelllls supported them, and afterwards, Phil and Martin from Norman & The Worms asked The Neatelllls' drummer Pete Hobbs to join their band. Robert Marlow told [https://books.google.com/books?id=8dlapcBLwu0C Jonathan Miller]:
 
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The track is also mentioned by Daryl Bamonte in Bong Magazine, Issue 24 on page 15, see right.
"There was another local band at school at the same time as Norman and The Worms that Martin also played in, together with two hippies. I can't remember their names but one of them wrote "Television Set"." This means that, in return for borrowing Pete Hobbs from The Neatellls, Martin occasionally played for The Neatelllls, and subsequently heard 'Television Set'. Marlow continued: "Martin wrote a catchy synth riff to [Television Set] so it ended up in [Depeche Mode's] set." Vince Clarke himself also told Jonathan Miller: "Television Set was written by a friend of Martin's. I don't know how or why [Depeche Mode] got it but we used to perform it. I think we decided not to record it because we weren't getting any publishing for it, otherwise we probably would have recorded it for the first Depeche Mode album."
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The track is also mentioned by Daryl Bamonte in [[BONG 24|BONG magazine, issue 24]] on page 15, see right.


Alan Wilder recalls performing "Television Set", from the [http://oldsite.recoil.co.uk/forum/qa/dlives3.htm Shunt Q&A]:
Alan Wilder recalls performing [[Television Set]] when he joined the live line-up for the [[:Category:1982 See You Tour|1982 "See You" Tour]]. From the [http://www.recoil.co.uk/#!/evidence/qa-vault/qa-depeche-mode/qa-depeche-mode-live/ Shunt Q&A]:


*From: Imrich Vegh
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'''Have you ever heard or played early DM tracks such as 'Tomorrow's Dance' and 'TV Set'?'''
'''Have you ever heard or played early DM tracks such as 'Tomorrow's Dance' and 'TV Set'?'''
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== Full track samples ==
== Demo excerpt ==


Perhaps the best quality recording of this song is from a master reel-to-reel FM broadcast recording of [[1981-09-29 Les Bains Douches, Paris, France]]. Listen: <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1981-09-29.fm.letsgo.0.flac1644/13.m4a</sm2>
This is the first of four tracks appearing on [[Composition Of Sound]]'s first demo tape. Vince Clarke sings lead vocals, as Dave Gahan had not joined the band yet. The entire demo tape has not yet surfaced; only the four excerpts found on the [[Demos & Studio Outtakes#Composition Of Sound demo tape|the demos & studio outtakes page]] are available. This one-minute excerpt is the original MP3 file shared by the owner of the demo tape in [http://www.depmod.com/forum/viewthread.php?fid=10&tid=6081 this thread on depmod], courtesy of ''Recoil19''.


Other excellent recordings of the song are available from these dates:
<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/demos2018/02.mp3</html5media>


*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1981-06-27.sbd.unknown.1.mp3320/01.mp3</sm2> [[1981-06-27 Crocs, Rayleigh, Essex, England, UK]] (soundboard)
== Live versions ==
*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1981-08-05.aud.unknown.unknown.flac1644/01.m4a</sm2> [[1981-08-05 Rafters, Manchester, England, UK]] (audience)
*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1981-10-23.sbd.unknown.unknown.flac1648/01.m4a</sm2> [[1981-10-23 Something Else]] (soundboard)
*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1982-03-06.fm.unknown.unknown.aac128/17.m4a</sm2> [[1982-03-06 Rockola, Madrid, Spain]] (soundboard-quality)


== Demo excerpt ==
This section provides examples of live versions of [[Television Set]] from each tour that it was played. The recording from '''1981-09-29 Paris''' is generally regarded as the best sounding version out of these examples.


This is the first of four tracks appearing on [[Composition Of Sound]]'s first demo tape. Vince Clarke sings lead vocals, as Dave Gahan had not joined the band yet. The entire demo tape has not yet surfaced; only the four excerpts found on the [[Demos & Studio Outtakes#Composition Of Sound demo tape|the demos & studio outtakes page]] are available. This one-minute excerpt is the original MP3 file shared by the owner of the demo tape in [http://www.depmod.com/forum/viewthread.php?fid=10&tid=6081 this thread on depmod], courtesy of ''Recoil19''.
=== [[:Category:1980 Tour|1980 Tour]] ===
 
*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1980-10-30.aud.unknown.unknown.flac1644/02.m4a</sm2> [[1980-10-30 Bridge House, London, England, UK]] (Audience)
<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/demos2018/02.mp3</html5media>
*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1980-11-14.aud.unknown.unknown.flac1644/01.m4a</sm2> [[1980-11-14 Technical College, Southend-On-Sea, Essex, England, UK]] (Audience)
=== [[:Category:1981 Tour|1981 Tour]] ===
*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1981-06-27.sbd.unknown.1.flac1644/01.m4a</sm2> [[1981-06-27 Crocs, Rayleigh, Essex, England, UK]] (Soundboard)
*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1981-09-29.preFM-FM.FranceInter.0.flac1644/13.m4a</sm2> [[1981-09-29 Les Bains Douches, Paris, France]] (pre-FM broadcast)
=== [[:Category:1982 See You Tour|1982 See You Tour]] ===
*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1982-02-27.aud.unknown.unknown.flac1644/17.m4a</sm2> [[1982-02-27 Bridge House, London, England, UK]] (Audience)
*<sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm1982-03-06.fm.unknown.unknown.aac128/17.m4a</sm2> [[1982-03-06 Rockola, Madrid, Spain]] (FM broadcast)


{{Template:Lyrics|Television Set|
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And did you see them running through me, babe
And did you see them running through me, babe


Did you see the lights in their eyes
Did you see the light in their eyes


Did you see the masses praying to me
Did you see the masses praying to me
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And did you see them running through me, babe
And did you see them running through me, babe


Did you see the lights in their eyes
Did you see the light in their eyes


Did you see the masses praying to me
Did you see the masses praying to me
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|Jason Knott|No publishing information available.}}
|Jason Knott|No publishing information available.}}


== Dates with available recordings of Television Set ==
== Live performances ==
 
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== Dates where Television Set was played ==
 
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[[Category:Song]]
[[Category:Song]]

Latest revision as of 14:04, 29 September 2023

This song was written by Jason Knott, Vince Clarke's friend and fellow musician from Basildon. This track was performed from the 1980 Tour through the 1982 See You Tour. The song was never recorded in the studio and does not appear on any official release due to the fact that it was not written by Vince or Martin (thanks to Deb Danahay and Basildon: New Town - New Life for that information). Several excellent live recordings of the track as well as a short excerpt of Vince Clarke's demo can be heard below. Full lyrics are also available.

From Basildon: New Town - New Life:

No Romance In China's original demo tape for Television Set - photo credit to Basildon: New Town - New Life

DEPECHE MODE - TELEVISION SET

Probably the most famous un-released Depeche Mode track is 'Television Set'.

Television Set was a song played by the band at virtually every gig during 1981, usually as their opening number in the first 6 months of that year. It was a firm favourite amongst fans at live gigs during that period. At the time many considered it DM's best song. When asked why it wasn't being released as an obvious choice for a single, the whispered reply was "Vince didn't write it". The origins of this classic song remained shrouded in mystery for years but the songs existence has always been well known to Depeche Mode fans through live bootlegs from this period.

'Television Set' was written by Basildon musician Jason Knott. Jason was in a local band called 'The Neatelllls' (spelt with 4 L's) which also included well known Basildon drummer Peter Hobbs. Although they never actually formed a band together, Jason, Peter and Vince Clarke did rehearse together a number of times and this is how Vince got to hear the song.

Vince took the song through a number of incarnations, firstly a recording with friend Sue Paget (his bandmate in No Romance In China) with Vince on guitar & vocals and Sue on Bass. The first ever live version of TV Set was performed at 'The Double Six' Pub in Basildon at 'No Romance In China's' only gig featuring Vince, Sue & Peter. A second recorded version was a solo demo track made by Vince, sounding completely different, made with a synthesizer, drum machine and Vince's vocals. Finally, Vince introduced the song into his new band Depeche Mode.

The photo shows the original cassette by 'No Romance In China' that contains their recording of T.V.Set. As you can see its has been recorded over a copy of 'The Cure's Three Imaginary Boys', Vince's favourite band at the time. Many thanks to Sue for providing the photo.

Susan Ryder Paget also recollects about the tape:

Tim tells the story fairly well in this article... it's my tape, recorded with just myself and Vince during a rehearsal in his bedroom in 1979. Also on it are a couple of Yazoo songs! And many more that never saw the light of day. It's been heard by only a very few people, and only via headphones and never played publicly anywhere!

It might be possible that Martin Gore befriended Jason Knott first and that Vince Clarke got to know Jason Knott through Martin, because when Norman & The Worms did a school gig in summer 1978, The Neatelllls supported them, and afterwards, Phil and Martin from Norman & The Worms asked The Neatelllls' drummer Pete Hobbs to join their band. Robert Marlow told Jonathan Miller:

"There was another local band at school at the same time as Norman and The Worms that Martin also played in, together with two hippies. I can't remember their names but one of them wrote "Television Set"." This means that, in return for borrowing Pete Hobbs from The Neatellls, Martin occasionally played for The Neatelllls, and subsequently heard 'Television Set'. Marlow continued: "Martin wrote a catchy synth riff to [Television Set] so it ended up in [Depeche Mode's] set." Vince Clarke himself also told Jonathan Miller: "Television Set was written by a friend of Martin's. I don't know how or why [Depeche Mode] got it but we used to perform it. I think we decided not to record it because we weren't getting any publishing for it, otherwise we probably would have recorded it for the first Depeche Mode album."

The track is also mentioned by Daryl Bamonte in BONG magazine, issue 24 on page 15, see right.

Alan Wilder recalls performing Television Set when he joined the live line-up for the 1982 "See You" Tour. From the Shunt Q&A:

Have you ever heard or played early DM tracks such as 'Tomorrow's Dance' and 'TV Set'?

I have had the dubious pleasure of actually performing 'TV Set' which was part of the Mode live set when I first joined the group. I'm also familiar with Tomorrow's Dance although I've never played or heard an actual performance of the song. Dave's rendition / impersonation of the embryonic DM performances were enough to have left an indelible imprint on my musical memory.

Demo excerpt

This is the first of four tracks appearing on Composition Of Sound's first demo tape. Vince Clarke sings lead vocals, as Dave Gahan had not joined the band yet. The entire demo tape has not yet surfaced; only the four excerpts found on the the demos & studio outtakes page are available. This one-minute excerpt is the original MP3 file shared by the owner of the demo tape in this thread on depmod, courtesy of Recoil19.

Live versions

This section provides examples of live versions of Television Set from each tour that it was played. The recording from 1981-09-29 Paris is generally regarded as the best sounding version out of these examples.

1980 Tour

1981 Tour

1982 See You Tour

Lyrics


Television Set

And did you see them running through me, babe

Did you see the light in their eyes

Did you see the masses praying to me

And I'm preaching them all lies


I'm just a mass of communication

I sell what everyone buys

Do you know my appearance is changing

Changing from my disguise


I'm just a

Television set

I'm just a

Television set

I'm just a

Television set


And you can have me, babe, if you want me

Just plug me into your wall

And I'll give you sex if you want it

Or I'll give you nothing at all


You can have me, babe, for all good times

You can have me, babe, for all bad

Keep me running all of your life and

I'll turn you instantly mad


I'm just a

Television set

I'm just a

Television set

I'm just a

Television set


And did you see them running through me, babe

Did you see the light in their eyes

Did you see the masses praying to me

And I'm preaching them all lies


I'm just a mass of communication

I sell what everyone buys

Do you know my appearance is changing

Changing from my disguise


I'm just a

Television set

I'm just a

Television set

I'm just a

Television set


Songwriter: Jason Knott
Publishing Information: No publishing information available.

Live performances

Main article: Available recordings of "Television Set"
Main article: List of dates where "Television Set" was played