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== Notes ==
== Notes ==


A good audience recording, fairly clear and direct, but there's a strange characteristically lossy sound to it despite the lineage and spectrogram looking correct. Maybe it's the fault of the microphone, I'm not really sure.
A very good audience recording. Somewhat noisy crowd around the taper. The first few seconds of [[Enjoy The Silence]] are missing due to MiniDisc change.
 
This recording is innately dual-mono, and the original file set had the two channels misaligned, thus causing severe distortion due to phase cancellation. According to the taper, this recording had been pressed on a silver CD bootleg called "Shadows Fall Onto Me", and just the left channel was provided and it was then doubled for CD-DA compatibility. Later on, the original stereo master was shared, albeit with the phase misalignment uncorrected. Ironically, the silver CD bootleg would've sounded better because the phase cancellation was corrected, perhaps unintentionally, by the use of only one channel.
 
Here are the taper's notes from an older file set:
 
<blockquote>
Security Was very Tight at This show, snuck my stuff in in a false bottomed purse,set up in the mens bathroom stall.  Was very HOT in NY That day, my car overheated on the GW bridge and thought I would miss the show but got there just in time for dm. Above average recording I think,  Was pressed on silver discs (shadows fall onto me), but this is much better quality since they were sent a left channel (doubled) only copy of the show,  this is the real deal.  ENJOY!!  Consider It an upgrade.
</blockquote>
 
And from the info file which was with the file set sent by the taper to the wiki:
 
<blockquote>
not an mp3 or ever was.just a strange sound from the mics and location. we were dead center in the venue.
</blockquote>
 
Technically, because this was recorded to a MiniDisc, the audio is lossy due to the ATRAC encoding, but in my opinion it's not terribly noticeable. The destructive phase cancellation seems to have been the cause for the unusual lossy-sounding qualities of the prior version of this recording.


== Listen ==
== Listen ==
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You can listen to this entire recording below.
You can listen to this entire recording below.


<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/complete.m4a</html5media>
<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/complete.m4a</html5media>


== Track list ==
== Track list ==


 
#[3:36] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/01.m4a</sm2> [[Easy Tiger]] / [[Dream On]] (Intro)
CD1:
#[5:04] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/02.m4a</sm2> [[The Dead Of Night]]
#[3:37] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/01.m4a</sm2> [[Easy Tiger]] / [[Dream On]] (Intro)
#[3:54] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/03.m4a</sm2> [[The Sweetest Condition]]
#[4:56] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/02.m4a</sm2> [[The Dead Of Night]]
#[4:44] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/04.m4a</sm2> [[Halo]]
#[3:56] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/03.m4a</sm2> [[The Sweetest Condition]]
#[6:20] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/05.m4a</sm2> [[Walking In My Shoes]]
#[4:49] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/04.m4a</sm2> [[Halo]]
#[5:37] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/06.m4a</sm2> [[Dream On]]
#[6:20] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/05.m4a</sm2> [[Walking In My Shoes]]
#[6:21] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/07.m4a</sm2> [[When The Body Speaks]]
#[5:34] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/06.m4a</sm2> [[Dream On]]
#[5:48] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/08.m4a</sm2> [[Waiting For The Night]]
#[6:24] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/07.m4a</sm2> [[When The Body Speaks]]
#[3:16] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/09.m4a</sm2> [[Dressed In Black]] {{tt|(*)|Vocals by Martin Gore}}
#[5:47] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/08.m4a</sm2> [[Waiting For The Night]]
#[5:31] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/10.m4a</sm2> [[Breathe]] {{tt|(*)|Vocals by Martin Gore}}
#[3:17] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/09.m4a</sm2> [[Dressed In Black]] (*)
#[6:44] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/11.m4a</sm2> [[Freelove]]
#[5:32] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/10.m4a</sm2> [[Breathe]] (*)
#[7:09] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/12.m4a</sm2> [[Enjoy The Silence]]
#[6:44] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD1/11.m4a</sm2> [[Freelove]]
#[7:07] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/13.m4a</sm2> [[I Feel You]]
 
#[5:21] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/14.m4a</sm2> [[In Your Room]]
CD2:
#[4:47] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/15.m4a</sm2> [[It's No Good]]
#[7:09] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/01.m4a</sm2> [[Enjoy The Silence]]
#[4:52] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/16.m4a</sm2> [[I Feel Loved]]
#[7:06] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/02.m4a</sm2> [[I Feel You]]
#[8:45] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/17.m4a</sm2> [[Personal Jesus]]
#[5:22] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/03.m4a</sm2> [[In Your Room]]
#[5:57] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/18.m4a</sm2> [[Home]] {{tt|(*)|Vocals by Martin Gore}}
#[4:47] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/04.m4a</sm2> [[It's No Good]]
#[6:01] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/19.m4a</sm2> [[Clean]]
#[4:53] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/05.m4a</sm2> [[I Feel Loved]]
#[4:48] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/20.m4a</sm2> [[Black Celebration]]
#[8:45] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/06.m4a</sm2> [[Personal Jesus]]
#[7:45] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/21.m4a</sm2> [[Never Let Me Down Again]]
#[5:41] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/07.m4a</sm2> [[Home]] (*)
*Total time: 1:59:27
#[6:10] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/08.m4a</sm2> [[Clean]]
#[4:56] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/09.m4a</sm2> [[Black Celebration]]
#[7:46] <sm2>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644/CD2/10.m4a</sm2> [[Never Let Me Down Again]]
*Total time: 1:59:31


== Lineage ==
== Lineage ==


*shotgun microphone (unknown model) -> battery box (no low frequency roll-off) -> Sony MZ-R3 MD recorder -> optical transfer -> Cool Edit Pro 2 -> FLAC level 8
*unknown shotgun mics -> battery box -> Sony MZ-R3 MiniDisc recorder -> optical transfer -> 2xCD-R -> Easy CD-DA Extractor 6.1 -> WAV -> FLAC -> in Reaper: eliminate silent microgaps, align stereo channels -> in Audacity: normalize to -0.1dB and remove DC offset, track splits -> FLAC level 8
*Taper: '''[[:Category:Recordings by ISWIWDead|ISWIWDead]]'''
*Taper: '''[[:Category:Recordings by ISWIWDead|ISWIWDead]]'''
*Original info file included
*Taping location: dead center of the venue
*Generation: master
*Original info file and auCDtectTaskManager log included


== Download ==
== Download ==


*[https://media.dmlive.wiki/downloads/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmic.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644.zip Download ZIP] - FLAC 16-bit 44.1KHz - 690.05MB
*[https://media.dmlive.wiki/downloads/dm2001-07-03.shotgunmics.ISWIWDead.0.flac1644.zip Download ZIP] - FLAC 16-bit 44.1KHz - 490.09MB


[[Category:Audience recordings]]
[[Category:Audience recordings]]

Revision as of 20:33, 7 May 2024

Notes

A very good audience recording. Somewhat noisy crowd around the taper. The first few seconds of Enjoy The Silence are missing due to MiniDisc change.

This recording is innately dual-mono, and the original file set had the two channels misaligned, thus causing severe distortion due to phase cancellation. According to the taper, this recording had been pressed on a silver CD bootleg called "Shadows Fall Onto Me", and just the left channel was provided and it was then doubled for CD-DA compatibility. Later on, the original stereo master was shared, albeit with the phase misalignment uncorrected. Ironically, the silver CD bootleg would've sounded better because the phase cancellation was corrected, perhaps unintentionally, by the use of only one channel.

Here are the taper's notes from an older file set:

Security Was very Tight at This show, snuck my stuff in in a false bottomed purse,set up in the mens bathroom stall. Was very HOT in NY That day, my car overheated on the GW bridge and thought I would miss the show but got there just in time for dm. Above average recording I think, Was pressed on silver discs (shadows fall onto me), but this is much better quality since they were sent a left channel (doubled) only copy of the show, this is the real deal. ENJOY!! Consider It an upgrade.

And from the info file which was with the file set sent by the taper to the wiki:

not an mp3 or ever was.just a strange sound from the mics and location. we were dead center in the venue.

Technically, because this was recorded to a MiniDisc, the audio is lossy due to the ATRAC encoding, but in my opinion it's not terribly noticeable. The destructive phase cancellation seems to have been the cause for the unusual lossy-sounding qualities of the prior version of this recording.

Listen

You can listen to this entire recording below.

Track list

  1. [3:36] Play Easy Tiger / Dream On (Intro)
  2. [5:04] Play The Dead Of Night
  3. [3:54] Play The Sweetest Condition
  4. [4:44] Play Halo
  5. [6:20] Play Walking In My Shoes
  6. [5:37] Play Dream On
  7. [6:21] Play When The Body Speaks
  8. [5:48] Play Waiting For The Night
  9. [3:16] Play Dressed In Black (*)
  10. [5:31] Play Breathe (*)
  11. [6:44] Play Freelove
  12. [7:09] Play Enjoy The Silence
  13. [7:07] Play I Feel You
  14. [5:21] Play In Your Room
  15. [4:47] Play It's No Good
  16. [4:52] Play I Feel Loved
  17. [8:45] Play Personal Jesus
  18. [5:57] Play Home (*)
  19. [6:01] Play Clean
  20. [4:48] Play Black Celebration
  21. [7:45] Play Never Let Me Down Again
  • Total time: 1:59:27

Lineage

  • unknown shotgun mics -> battery box -> Sony MZ-R3 MiniDisc recorder -> optical transfer -> 2xCD-R -> Easy CD-DA Extractor 6.1 -> WAV -> FLAC -> in Reaper: eliminate silent microgaps, align stereo channels -> in Audacity: normalize to -0.1dB and remove DC offset, track splits -> FLAC level 8
  • Taper: ISWIWDead
  • Taping location: dead center of the venue
  • Generation: master
  • Original info file and auCDtectTaskManager log included

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