User talk:Daniro2505

Thanks for your recent edits! How do you know the setlist for these gigs? How come some gigs are very short (4 or 5 tracks), such as these?

1980-10-16 Bridge House, London, England, UK 1980-08-30 Crocs, Rayleigh, Essex, England, UK

Towncivilian (talk) 18:44, 28 January 2015 (EST)

I see, thanks. Unfortunately, the gigs of this period can have greatly varying setlists, so without genuine recordings, setlist sheets, or anecdotal evidence from those close to the band during those days (i.e. Deb Danahay, Daryl Bamonte, Daniel Miller, etc) I hesitate to even offer a tentative setlist. I think it would be best to leave the setlists blank and with the dates marked as having unconfirmed setlists, rather than speculate and then have potential misinformation spread.

For example, for some of the November 1980 recordings, you listed Addiction as being played. However, in issue 24 of the Bong Magazine, in Daryl's article it is mentioned that the track was only played once or twice at the very most. This illustrates the fact that while we have a recording of a gig from November 1980 (1980-11-14 Technical College, Southend-On-Sea, Essex, England, UK), we can't infer with 100% accuracy the setlist of other gigs in the same month.

Also, any recording you find labeled as 1980-05-31 Basildon is a fake culled from several other sources, unfortunately.

I do appreciate your efforts and hope you don't feel discouraged by my rollbacks of your edits. If you do end up finding proof of an early unconfirmed setlist, try to include a link to the content when you edit the page so I can confirm it.

Towncivilian (talk) 19:23, 29 January 2015 (EST)