1994-05-14 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountainview, San Francisco, CA, USA/Source 1: Difference between revisions

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An excellent soundboard recording. This is from a DAT master clone source and is the best you will find. This recording circulated on a couple chrome cassettes in the past, as well as several silver CD bootleg sources (some taken from DAT clones, some from cassettes).
An excellent soundboard recording. This is from a DAT master clone source and is the best you will find. This recording circulated on a couple chrome cassettes in the past, as well as several silver CD bootleg sources (some taken from DAT clones, some from cassettes).


During [[Behind The Wheel]], Dave seems to say to someone specifically: "That's alright, you can just sit there. It's not a fucking movie, man! ... I'm not giving up! ... Ah, fuck off." At the end of [[Everything Counts]], he says "Yeah, I knew you wouldn't let me down". This concert also had a backing tape issue during [[Stripped]].
During [[Behind The Wheel]], Dave seems to say to someone specifically: "That's alright, you can just sit there. It's not a fucking movie, man! ... I'm not giving up! ... Ah, fuck off." At the end of [[Everything Counts]], he says "Yeah, I knew you wouldn't let me down". This concert also had a backing tape issue during [[Stripped]].During [[Behind The Wheel]], Dave directs his words specifically at someone in the audience, expressing, "That's alright, you can just sit there. It's not a fucking movie, man! ... I'm not giving up! ... Ah, fuck off." As [[Everything Counts]] concludes, he says "Yeah, I knew you wouldn't let me down". Moreover, this concert had a backing tape issue during the song [[Stripped]].


All sources, including this one, have a section of diginoise during [[In Your Room]] before Dave sings "your burning eyes" (3:54 during this particular recording). The 2xCD-R bootleg "Rated PG" patched out the diginoise by using a segment from earlier in the song and it blends pretty well, actually. I have included a version with the diginoise patched out, exactly as the silver CD bootleg does it, if you choose to use it. An audience recording that recently surfaced (available at [[1994-05-14 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountainview, San Francisco, CA, USA/Source 2|Source 2]]) also has the diginoise audible, so it seems that the issue was heard even by the audience and thus is "accurate".
What adds further interest is that all sources, including this one, have a brief section of diginoise present during [[In Your Room]] before Dave sings the line "your burning eyes" (specifically at 3:54 in this particular recording). The 2xCD-R bootleg titled "Rated PG" removed the diginoise by incorporating a segment from an earlier part of the song, resulting in a seamless blend. I have included a version where the diginoise has been patched out, replicating the approach taken by the silver CD bootleg, in case you would prefer to use it. Additionally, an audience recording (accessible as [[1994-05-14 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountainview, San Francisco, CA, USA/Source 2|Source 2]]) also captures the diginoise, proving that the issue was audible to the audience and can be considered an accurate representation.


Please note that this is a 16-bit 48kHz file set. You shouldn't need to resample this to 44.1kHz unless you are burning it to a CD; if you need to do that but aren't sure how to do so, you can follow a guide here: [[Sample rate conversion]]
Please note that this is a 16-bit 48kHz file set. You shouldn't need to resample this to 44.1kHz unless you are burning it to a CD; if you need to do that but aren't sure how to do so, you can follow a guide here: [[Sample rate conversion]]

Revision as of 14:46, 8 July 2023

Notes

An excellent soundboard recording. This is from a DAT master clone source and is the best you will find. This recording circulated on a couple chrome cassettes in the past, as well as several silver CD bootleg sources (some taken from DAT clones, some from cassettes).

During Behind The Wheel, Dave seems to say to someone specifically: "That's alright, you can just sit there. It's not a fucking movie, man! ... I'm not giving up! ... Ah, fuck off." At the end of Everything Counts, he says "Yeah, I knew you wouldn't let me down". This concert also had a backing tape issue during Stripped.During Behind The Wheel, Dave directs his words specifically at someone in the audience, expressing, "That's alright, you can just sit there. It's not a fucking movie, man! ... I'm not giving up! ... Ah, fuck off." As Everything Counts concludes, he says "Yeah, I knew you wouldn't let me down". Moreover, this concert had a backing tape issue during the song Stripped.

What adds further interest is that all sources, including this one, have a brief section of diginoise present during In Your Room before Dave sings the line "your burning eyes" (specifically at 3:54 in this particular recording). The 2xCD-R bootleg titled "Rated PG" removed the diginoise by incorporating a segment from an earlier part of the song, resulting in a seamless blend. I have included a version where the diginoise has been patched out, replicating the approach taken by the silver CD bootleg, in case you would prefer to use it. Additionally, an audience recording (accessible as Source 2) also captures the diginoise, proving that the issue was audible to the audience and can be considered an accurate representation.

Please note that this is a 16-bit 48kHz file set. You shouldn't need to resample this to 44.1kHz unless you are burning it to a CD; if you need to do that but aren't sure how to do so, you can follow a guide here: Sample rate conversion

Some interesting information about the origins of this recording was answered on Shunt Q&A: (questions are italicized, Alan's answers are in bold)

ORIGINAL TEXT FROM WWW.RECOIL.CO.UK:

I have a soundboard recording from the USA '94 show in San Francisco. I always thought this was done without the bands knowledge/approval but when samples from the recording turned up in that god-awful new remix of 'World In My Eyes' (found on the XLCD of 'Only When I Lose Myself'), I realised that the band must have known about it. Did/do Depeche Mode record several shows of each tour in this manner, and if so, for what purpose?

Sound recordings direct from the front of house mixing desk were only ever made for personal reference reasons. I knew nothing about the above remix until I received a finished CD with it included. As you can imagine I was far from pleased.

BRAT Explanation:

The soundboard is definitely a bootleg (rumour is that someone knew one of the tour personnel and got a DAT clone). The remix you refer to (the absolutely HORRID "Safar Mix") was originally a bootleg 12" remix single.

I went to Reprise to present my proposal for a special 3rd CD to the upcoming (then) 'Singles 86>98' compilation. Craig Kostich (Product Manager at Reprise), later in the process of pressing up the bonus disc, took out 9 of the rarer tracks I wanted to see included on the Reprise release, and replaced them all with the piss-poor Safar Mix of 'World In My Eyes'. Craig is friends with the guy (Safar) therefore, you have him to blame for the track getting released.

Hope I didn't bore anyone!

Not at all Brat. Thanks for clearing it up.

Listen

You can listen to this entire recording below.

Track list

  1. [6:49] Play Rush
  2. [4:45] Play Halo
  3. [5:20] Play Behind The Wheel
  4. [4:43] Play Everything Counts
  5. [6:14] Play World In My Eyes
  6. [6:45] Play Walking In My Shoes
  7. [5:21] Play Stripped
  8. [4:05] Play Condemnation (*)
  9. [4:36] Play I Want You Now (*)
  10. [6:52] Play In Your Room
  11. [5:00] Play Never Let Me Down Again
  12. [7:18] Play I Feel You
  13. [6:10] Play Personal Jesus
  14. [4:13] Play Somebody (*)
  15. [6:56] Play Enjoy The Silence
  16. [4:30] Play A Question Of Time

Bonus:

  1. [6:52] Play In Your Room (diginoise patched out)
  • Total time (including bonus): 1:36:36

Lineage

  • Master DAT -> DAT clone (unknown if cloned via analog or digital connection) -> Fostex DAT tape machine -> Tascam DM24 digital mixer via AES EBU optical cable -> digital audio connection to Soundscape -> WAV -> APE (1 track) -> tracks split by cuesheet -> FLAC level 8
  • Taper: ER

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