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As part of his [http://auction.recoil.co.uk/ 2011 auction], Alan Wilder sold 20 numbered and signed ZIP discs for the Emax II sampler containing samples used during the [[:Category:1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour|1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour]] and [[:Category:1993 Devotional Tour|1993 Devotional Tour]]<ref name="auction">[http://auction.recoil.co.uk/20-x-aw-dm-sound-sample-zip-discs/ The Alan Wilder / Depeche Mode Collection: 20 x AW / DM sound sample ZIP discs]</ref>. Most of the samples were taken from the original multitrack recordings.<ref name="auction"></ref> Samples of songs from the Devotional tour that went unplayed or played only once (in the case of [[Something To Do]]) were also included in the auction.<ref name="auction"></ref>
As part of his [http://auction.recoil.co.uk/ 2011 auction], Alan Wilder sold 20 numbered and signed ZIP discs for the Emax II sampler containing samples used during the [[:Category:1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour|1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour]] and [[:Category:1993 Devotional Tour|1993 Devotional Tour]]<ref name="auction">[http://auction.recoil.co.uk/20-x-aw-dm-sound-sample-zip-discs/ The Alan Wilder / Depeche Mode Collection: 20 x AW / DM sound sample ZIP discs]</ref>. Most of the samples were taken from the original multitrack recordings.<ref name="auction"></ref> Samples of songs from the Devotional tour that went unplayed or played only once (in the case of [[Something To Do]]) were also included in the auction.<ref name="auction"></ref>
Please note that for obvious reasons, the samples can not be made available here. It would seem they circulate fairly widely nonetheless, to the point that there's a post about it on reddit.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/depechemode/comments/4poxbd/depeche_mode_samples_i_have_them/ reddit: Depeche Mode Samples - I have them!]</ref>
It would seem that the ZIP discs sold were not necessarily complete sets, as more samples than these from the respective tours circulate more tightly. One notable case is [[Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth]]; this track was present on one of Alan Wilder's Emax II ZIP discs, as told to me directly from an anonymous source who worked with Alan during his 2011 auction. The quality is somewhat degraded due to age of the ZIP discs<ref name="auction"></ref> and lossy audio compression used for this track. The pops and clicks in the middle section specifically are the most obvious audible result of the degradation due to age. ZIP discs are notorious for their poor reliability, so this situation certainly makes sense. This track was previously thought to be a well-made fan cover, but I believe it is a legitimate sequence that was used during the tour. This information also appears on the [[1987 - 1988 Music For The Masses Tour Backing Tapes]] page.
*Listen to the sequence of [[Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth]]:
<html5media>https://www.depechemode-live.com/samples/bt-ntybome.m4a</html5media>


=== General information ===
=== General information ===
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Furthermore, the [https://soundcloud.com/jonas-berg-6 Soundcloud user '''Michigan-Sweden'''] recreated very faithful sounding "live instrumentals" of many tracks from the MFTM tour and other tours using some of the original samples from Alan Wilder's Emax II setup. [https://soundcloud.com/jonas-berg-6 Listen to them on his Soundcloud here.]
Please note that for obvious reasons, the samples can not be made available here on the wiki. It would seem they circulate fairly widely nonetheless, to the point that there's a post about it on reddit.<ref>[https://www.reddit.com/r/depechemode/comments/4poxbd/depeche_mode_samples_i_have_them/ reddit: Depeche Mode Samples - I have them!]</ref>
 
It would seem that the ZIP discs sold were not necessarily complete sets, as more samples than the ones auctioned from the respective tours circulate more tightly.
 
=== Sequences ===
 
A couple tracks have sequences that originate from Alan Wilder's Emax setup; one track is sourced from a ZIP disc, the other from a floppy disc.
 
==== Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth ====
 
The sequence for [[Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth]] was present on one of Alan Wilder's Emax II ZIP discs, as told to me directly from an anonymous source who worked with Alan during his 2011 auction. The quality is somewhat degraded due to age of the ZIP discs<ref name="auction"></ref> and lossy audio compression used for this track. The pops and clicks in the middle section specifically are the most obvious audible result of the degradation due to age. ZIP discs are notorious for their poor reliability, so this situation certainly makes sense. This track was previously thought to be a well-made fan cover, but I believe it is a legitimate sequence that was used during the tour. This information also appears on the [[1987 - 1988 Music For The Masses Tour Backing Tapes]] page.
 
*Listen to the sequence of [[Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth]]:
<html5media>https://media.depechemode-live.com/stream/demos/emax/ntybome-sequence.m4a</html5media>
 
==== Christmas Island ====
 
A sequence of [[Christmas Island]] sourced from one of Alan's Emax II floppy discs was sent to me by an anonymous source. The quality is significantly improved over the sequence of [[Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth]] above, which is sourced from degraded ZIP discs.
 
*[[Christmas Island]] (Emax II Sequence):
<html5media>https://media.depechemode-live.com/stream/demos/emax/ci.m4a</html5media>


[[File:AlanWilderAuctionEmax.jpg|400px|thumb|right|[http://auction.recoil.co.uk/20-x-aw-dm-sound-sample-zip-discs/ The Alan Wilder / Depeche Mode Collection: 20 x AW / DM sound sample ZIP discs]]]
If you listen closely toward the end of Alan Wilder's Emax II demonstration video below, it seems that this sequence was the one he used.
=== [[:Category:1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour|1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour]] ===


*Bank 00: [[People Are People]]
{{YouTube:id=WfyCcbmK8Vk}}
*Bank 01: [[A Question Of Time]]
*Bank 02: [[A Question Of Lust]]
*Bank 03: [[Pleasure, Little Treasure]]
*Bank 04: [[Sacred]]
*Bank 05: [[Blasphemous Rumours]]
*Bank 06: [[It Doesn't Matter]]
*Bank 07: [[Things You Said]]
*Bank 08: [[Strangelove]]
*Bank 09: [[Shake The Disease]]
*Bank 10: [[Never Let Me Down Again]]
*Bank 11: [[Just Can't Get Enough]]
*Bank 12: [[Stripped]]
*Bank 13: [[Pipeline]]
*Bank 14: [[Nothing]]
*Bank 15: [[Behind The Wheel]]
*Bank 16: [[Something To Do]]
*Bank 17: [[Everything Counts]]
*Bank 18: [[Somebody]]


=== [[:Category:1993 Devotional Tour|1993 Devotional Tour]] ===
Furthermore, the [https://soundcloud.com/jonas-berg-6 Soundcloud user '''Michigan-Sweden'''] recreated very faithful sounding "live instrumentals" of many tracks from the MFTM tour and other tours using some of the original samples from Alan Wilder's Emax II setup. [https://soundcloud.com/jonas-berg-6 Listen to them on his Soundcloud here.]


*Bank 34: [[Mercy In You]] (Alan 93)
[[File:AlanWilderAuctionEmax.jpg|400px|thumb|right|[http://auction.recoil.co.uk/20-x-aw-dm-sound-sample-zip-discs/ The Alan Wilder / Depeche Mode Collection: 20 x AW / DM sound sample ZIP discs]]]
*Bank 35: [[Fly On The Windscreen]]
{| class="wikitable"
*Bank 36: [[Nothing]] (Alan 93)
|+Emax II Song Banks
*Bank 37: [[Something To Do]]
! Tour!! Bank!! Song
*Bank 38: [[Leave In Silence]] (Alan 93)
|-
*Bank 39: [[A Question Of Lust]]
|rowspan="19"|[[:Category:1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour|1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour]]||00||[[People Are People]]
*Bank 40: [[Clean]] (percussion trigger sounds)
|-
*Bank 41: [[Condemnation]] (Guide)
|01||[[A Question Of Time]]
*Bank 42: [[Everything Counts]] (94 version)
|-
*Bank 43: [[Waiting For The Night]]
|02||[[A Question Of Lust]]
*Bank 44: [[I Want You Now]] (94 version)
|-
|03||[[Pleasure, Little Treasure]]
|-
|04||[[Sacred]]
|-
|05||[[Blasphemous Rumours]]
|-
|06||[[It Doesn't Matter]]
|-
|07||[[The Things You Said|Things You Said]]
|-
|08||[[Strangelove]]
|-
|09||[[Shake The Disease]]
|-
|10||[[Never Let Me Down Again]]
|-
|11||[[Just Can't Get Enough]]
|-
|12||[[Stripped]]
|-
|13||[[Pipeline]]
|-
|14||[[Nothing]]
|-
|15||[[Behind The Wheel]]
|-
|16||[[Something To Do]]
|-
|17||[[Everything Counts]]
|-
|18||[[Somebody]]
|-
|-
|rowspan="12"|[[:Category:1993 Devotional Tour|1993 Devotional Tour]]||34||[[Mercy In You]] (Alan 93)
|-
|35||[[Fly On The Windscreen]]
|-
|36||[[Nothing]] (Alan 93)
|-
|37||[[Something To Do]]
|-
|38||[[Leave In Silence]] (Alan 93)
|-
|39||[[A Question Of Lust]]
|-
|40||[[Clean]] (percussion trigger sounds)
|-
|41||[[Condemnation]] (vocal guide)
|-
|42||[[Everything Counts]] (94 version)
|-
|43||[[Waiting For The Night]]
|-
|44||[[I Want You Now]]
|-
|}


== References ==
== References ==

Revision as of 16:24, 9 July 2016

Notes

As part of his 2011 auction, Alan Wilder sold 20 numbered and signed ZIP discs for the Emax II sampler containing samples used during the 1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour and 1993 Devotional Tour[1]. Most of the samples were taken from the original multitrack recordings.[1] Samples of songs from the Devotional tour that went unplayed or played only once (in the case of Something To Do) were also included in the auction.[1]

General information

Copied & pasted from the original auction listing[1]:

The Zip discs will work in any suitable Zip drive and connect to the Emax via a scuzi cable. Despite our best efforts, we were unable to transfer everything absolutely perfectly from the original floppies. The vast majority of sounds are fully in tact but one or two have small corruptions at the end of notes. The good news is that, with a bit of careful editing, these glitches can be removed. (Thanks goes to Tom & Simon for their help)

Alan's comments

Copied & pasted from the original auction listing[1]:

“I spent many hours (days!) programming each member’s keyboards for the tours, painstakingly trying to recreate as accurately as possible the sounds we formulated and used on the records. The Emax was a perfect tool for the live re-creations. This collection covers most of my own sounds for the two tours, although I did play live drums on some songs. I tried all these out recently and discovered how much fun it is to work out the various parts we all used to play. I even found some guide sounds which weren’t actually performed live but were used to demonstrate parts to others. For example, I discovered some guide vocals for Condemnation which were sampled to help routine our girl backing vocalists during the rehearsals.”

Please note that for obvious reasons, the samples can not be made available here on the wiki. It would seem they circulate fairly widely nonetheless, to the point that there's a post about it on reddit.[2]

It would seem that the ZIP discs sold were not necessarily complete sets, as more samples than the ones auctioned from the respective tours circulate more tightly.

Sequences

A couple tracks have sequences that originate from Alan Wilder's Emax setup; one track is sourced from a ZIP disc, the other from a floppy disc.

Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth

The sequence for Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth was present on one of Alan Wilder's Emax II ZIP discs, as told to me directly from an anonymous source who worked with Alan during his 2011 auction. The quality is somewhat degraded due to age of the ZIP discs[1] and lossy audio compression used for this track. The pops and clicks in the middle section specifically are the most obvious audible result of the degradation due to age. ZIP discs are notorious for their poor reliability, so this situation certainly makes sense. This track was previously thought to be a well-made fan cover, but I believe it is a legitimate sequence that was used during the tour. This information also appears on the 1987 - 1988 Music For The Masses Tour Backing Tapes page.

Christmas Island

A sequence of Christmas Island sourced from one of Alan's Emax II floppy discs was sent to me by an anonymous source. The quality is significantly improved over the sequence of Never Turn Your Back On Mother Earth above, which is sourced from degraded ZIP discs.

If you listen closely toward the end of Alan Wilder's Emax II demonstration video below, it seems that this sequence was the one he used.

Template:YouTube:id=WfyCcbmK8Vk

Furthermore, the Soundcloud user Michigan-Sweden recreated very faithful sounding "live instrumentals" of many tracks from the MFTM tour and other tours using some of the original samples from Alan Wilder's Emax II setup. Listen to them on his Soundcloud here.

Emax II Song Banks
Tour Bank Song
1987-1988 Music For The Masses Tour 00 People Are People
01 A Question Of Time
02 A Question Of Lust
03 Pleasure, Little Treasure
04 Sacred
05 Blasphemous Rumours
06 It Doesn't Matter
07 Things You Said
08 Strangelove
09 Shake The Disease
10 Never Let Me Down Again
11 Just Can't Get Enough
12 Stripped
13 Pipeline
14 Nothing
15 Behind The Wheel
16 Something To Do
17 Everything Counts
18 Somebody
1993 Devotional Tour 34 Mercy In You (Alan 93)
35 Fly On The Windscreen
36 Nothing (Alan 93)
37 Something To Do
38 Leave In Silence (Alan 93)
39 A Question Of Lust
40 Clean (percussion trigger sounds)
41 Condemnation (vocal guide)
42 Everything Counts (94 version)
43 Waiting For The Night
44 I Want You Now

References