1990-07-21 Shoreline Amphitheatre, Mountainview, San Francisco, CA, USA/Source 1
A okay sounding (to my ears) soundboard recording. It has been subject to what sounds like several rounds of lossy compression, which causes the bad sounding squelching and metallic sounding artifacts throughout the recording.
More background information about this recording can be found in the text file "DM Mountain View 1990" which was written by DM Live’s colleague Vince Dome, and is also quoted below:
The “famous” 1990 soundboards
Note : I used various sources and personal infos to write down the following background text.
Some info may be incorrect, please contact me if you see any error, or if you can complete or add any relevant information about that venue/period/gig/set/songs.
Depeche Mode released no official live tracks on audio or video of the “World Violation Tour”. Some parts of a live concert (one gig? more?) can be seen on the “World In My Eyes” music video (taken from the Mountain View video ???).
The band and management said that with the release of “Depeche Mode 101”, there was no need for another audio/video release only 2 years after the last tour. It seemed that no gig was protaped by Mute, but that some were partially taped by TV or more fully when giant screens were provided by the venues (the TV staff of the venue filmed the performance).
But where are the other soundboards?
Brat did a great job finding a multicam proshot tape of the first of the two Dodger Stadium in 1990. It was taped by the Dodger video crew, for the giant screens. The Dodger Stadium may have a digital copy, but who knows?
Brat provided free samples on Vimeo (90 sec of each song), thanks to him : http://vimeo.com/album/2199441
Furthermore, at the Home forum (depeche-mode.com), in this post (http://www.depeche-mode.com/forum/index.php?topic=10563.msg124250#msg124250) Brat said: --- The last time I tried to beg Fletch to release all the old soundboards that JD has collecting dust, Fletch replied with "They're soundboards. They aren't properly mixed. You can't hear the crowd."
Even though I almost went blue in the face, screaming that was the exact reason to release them, I doubt it will ever happen (though I always beg whenever I get the chance). One day, they will give in! :) ---
Here are the “questions and answers” done by Alan on his website, who is always happy to give many many infos on his work with Depeche Mode. Thanks to him!
From: Frantisek Trenkler E-mail: [email protected]
Q > I would like to ask you why DM released so many live songs during the 'Devotional' tour (live singles, 'SOFAD' live, 'Devotional' video) and yet there was nothing released during the 'World Violation' tour? Are there at least some 1990 tour audio/video recordings in your archives so we can hope for their later release?
A > The 'World Violation' tour was too soon after the 'MFTM' tour to warrant a live LP. By the time 'Devotional' came along it was felt that enough time had passed to release another one. I'm sure there are some recordings from 'World Violation' but I don't know if they will ever be released.
From: Farhan E-mail: [email protected]
Q > Did DM record all their live shows and then listen to them afterwards for improvement matters?
A > I used to get our sound engineer to record tapes (directly from the mixing board) of rehearsals and the first few shows of a tour. These don't always give you an accurate balance but are good for checking performance etc. Apart from that, we only recorded certain shows (using a mobile) if we were intending a live LP or something.
An incomplete audience version of this gig exists, and three different complete SDB “mp3 versions” were available (mostly since 2005): - raw SDB “mp3 version” - “remastered” (?) SDB “mp3 version” - normalized and reworked SDB “mp3 version” done by me and freely sent to around 30 "important" french fans since May 2006. I asked them not to surface it, as I was hoping to surface the “wave version”. It was a gift I made to them, to gave a proof that if I was not surfacing anything, they will have the opportunity to do that. Since May 2006, I worked very hard to track down a possible wave / video version. I did not find it, but had many many infos, and I hope that it will be surfaced in the future with other rarities.
The original source for this soundboard recording was said by Brat to be 192kbps MP3 files, leaked by an unnamed northern Californian promoter. I received the MP3 files used for this recording from a French DJ who obtained it from a DJ friend in the USA, so it is reasonable to assume that these files are the original leaked files, hopefully without further MP3 transcoding applied...
On October 4th, 2006, a French fan sent Rapidshare links with 12 tracks of mp3 (mp3 from the wave version I sended in May 2006), taken from the normalized version I sended to friends. It seemed that someone lied to me and made copies. Everyone played the game… only one black sheep, not bad after all ^_^
There were also samples of the SDB that surfaced in 2004 (heavy compression), and a few more samples in 2005 (same compression than the usual complete SDB “mp3 version”).
Side-line electro webzine announced in late 2003 “Violator soundboard recording pops up”. This started some debate to know if the extract (“Enjoy The Silence”) was taken from the Moutain View SDB (presented here), or from the Philadelphia day 2 MTV broadcast. http://www.side-line.com/news_comments.php?id=P373_0_2_0_C
To date, no silver CD bootleg of this recording has been released. Maybe the lossiness is stopping them, but that hasn't stopped bootleg labels releasing lossy recordings before.
You may find two incomplete audience recordings of this concert on the DM Live Wiki here: https://dmlive.wiki/wiki/1990-07-21_Shoreline_Amphitheatre,_Mountainview,_San_Francisco,_CA,_USA
In summer 2011, a 3LP colored vinyl bootleg called "Violator Live" appeared on eBay. This bootleg contains an incomplete copy of the soundtrack of the Dodger Stadium pro-shot VHS giant screen tape mentioned earlier. The last five tracks on "Violator Live" are from this torrent's recording of Shoreline and are not from a lossless source. It is unknown why the entire Dodger Stadium soundtrack was not used for the bootleg. Late December 2011 is when the recording appeared on bootleg forums and DIME. Compared to the Shoreline soundboard recording, the Dodger's Stadium recording is unmixed and unmastered (other than what was done by the bootleg label).
DM Live was sent a snippet of Enjoy The Silence which was purportedly encoded from a lossless source, and it sure sounds like it:
No further audio from this better sounding source was provided to DM Live, unfortunately.
You can listen to this entire recording below, but it's going to sound very bad since it was subject to yet another round of compression in order to stream here.
- [3:17] Play Kaleid
- [5:15] Play World In My Eyes
- [4:40] Play Halo
- [5:16] Play Shake The Disease
- [6:07] Play Everything Counts
- [3:58] Play Master And Servant
- [7:00] Play Never Let Me Down Again
- [5:43] Play Waiting For The Night
- [4:36] Play Here Is The House (*)
- [3:24] Play Sweetest Perfection (*)
- [6:18] Play Clean
- [6:31] Play Stripped
- [5:05] Play Policy Of Truth
- [7:48] Play Enjoy The Silence
- [5:02] Play Strangelove
- [6:34] Play Personal Jesus
- [4:43] Play Black Celebration
- [4:35] Play A Question Of Time
- [5:33] Play Behind The Wheel
- [5:07] Play Route 66
- Total time: 1:46:31
Tentative: pro-shot VHS or SVHS -> unknown transfer and generation -> several rounds of MP3 encoding -> MP3 192kbps copy -> normalization -> FLAC level 8
- Download ZIP - FLAC 16-bit 44.1KHz - 586MB