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== Notes ==
== Notes ==
[[File:T-1993-07-31.jpg|right|thumb|x240px|Ticket scan credit to '''Stealth71'''.]]
[[File:T-1993-07-31.jpg|right|thumb|x240px|Ticket scan credit to '''Stealth71'''.]]
Fourteen out of nineteen songs were broadcast on BBC Radio 1, originally on 1993-08-30.<ref>[http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/a94dc77f0b3841b8bb956f93e29766f1 BBC Genome: Evening Session BBC Radio 1 England, 30 August 1993 17.30]</ref><ref>[http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/radio1/england/1993-08-30 BBC Genome: Listings for 1993-08-30]</ref> There were two different broadcasts of the concert, one of which included [[Walking In My Shoes]] which was not part of the other broadcast. Steve Lyon confirmed that he mixed the audio for the FM broadcast in Dublin, at the same time he mixed the audio for the "Devotional" video release.<ref>[https://twitter.com/SteveLyonMusic/status/865161563501670400 Twitter conversation between @DMLiveWiki and @SteveLyonMusic]</ref>
Fourteen out of nineteen songs from the concert were originally broadcast on BBC Radio 1 on 1993-08-30.<ref>[https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/a94dc77f0b3841b8bb956f93e29766f1 BBC Genome: Evening Session BBC Radio 1 England, 30 August 1993 17.30]</ref><ref>[https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/radio1/england/1993-08-30 BBC Genome: Listings for 1993-08-30]</ref> There were two different broadcasts, one of which included [[Walking In My Shoes]], which was not featured in the other broadcast. Steve Lyon confirmed that he mixed the audio for this FM broadcast in Dublin, simultaneously with the audio mix for the 'Devotional' video release.<ref>[https://twitter.com/SteveLyonMusic/status/865161563501670400 Twitter conversation between @DMLiveWiki and @SteveLyonMusic] </ref>


According to BONG magazine issue #22, 36.131 people were at this show. [http://archives.depechemode.com/specials/july_31_1993.html You can watch a special video about this concert on the official site archives here.] You can read some concert reports from the July 28 - August 4, 1993 issue of "Time Out" magazine [http://www.tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=depechemodefile&page=23 here.]
According to [[BONG 22|BONG magazine issue #22]], 36,131 people were at this show. [http://archives.depechemode.com/specials/july_31_1993.html You can watch a special video about this concert on the official site archives here.] You can read some concert reports from the July 28 - August 4, 1993 issue of "Time Out" magazine [http://www.tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=depechemodefile&page=23 here.]
[[File:1993-07-31 Dave on barrier.jpg|right|thumb|x120px|Dave standing on the barrier.]]
[[File:1993-07-31 Dave on barrier.jpg|right|thumb|x120px|Dave standing on the barrier.]]
Dave said something like "We bought the full moon commissioned especially for you vampires tonight. Only joking, cost too much [laughs]" upon seeing the full moon; he also said "I'll need a little help with this one ([[Stripped]]). You should know the words by now", but then when nobody sang along he said "Oh, come on"; then during [[I Feel You]] he said "Now I can hear you! ... just takes a while sometimes, you know!" <ref>[http://www.depeche-mode.com/forum/index.php?topic=21781.msg349333#msg349333 '''aapierre''' on the Home forum, Re: Crystal Palace 7/31/93 on YouTube]</ref> Furthermore, Dave also said "At least its not fucking raining" after [[World In My Eyes]] as well as "Let's hear you make some fucking noise" at the beginning of [[Never Let Me Down Again]]. Dave also climbed on the front barrier during [[Enjoy The Silence]].<ref>[http://forums.depechemode.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=930033#p930033 '''depman''' on the official DMMB, Re: 22 years TODAY the Crystal Palace Gig London, who was there?]</ref> This was the third time that [[One Caress]] (with string quartet) was played on this tour.  
Dave said something like "We bought the full moon commissioned especially for you vampires tonight. Only joking, cost too much [laughs]" upon seeing the full moon; he also said "I'll need a little help with this one ([[Stripped]]). You should know the words by now", but then when nobody sang along he said "Oh, come on"; then during [[I Feel You]] he said "Now I can hear you! ... just takes a while sometimes, you know!" <ref>[http://www.depeche-mode.com/forum/index.php?topic=21781.msg349333#msg349333 '''aapierre''' on the Home forum, Re: Crystal Palace 7/31/93 on YouTube]</ref> Furthermore, Dave also said "At least its not fucking raining" after [[World In My Eyes]] as well as "Let's hear you make some fucking noise" at the beginning of [[Never Let Me Down Again]]. Dave also climbed on the front barrier during [[Enjoy The Silence]].<ref>[http://forums.depechemode.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=930033#p930033 '''depman''' on the official DMMB, Re: 22 years TODAY the Crystal Palace Gig London, who was there?]</ref> This was the third time that [[One Caress]] (with string quartet) was played on this tour.  
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Sunscreem, Dreadzone, Dub Syndicate, Marxmen and Sisters Of Mercy were the support acts. The Sisters Of Mercy famously said to the crowd "Enjoy the puppet show" at the end of their set, supposedly a dig at Depeche Mode. Find all info and material on the Sisters Of Mercy's performance on [http://sisterswiki.org/Sat,_31-Jul-1993 their fan Wiki.]
Sunscreem, Dreadzone, Dub Syndicate, Marxmen and Sisters Of Mercy were the support acts. The Sisters Of Mercy famously said to the crowd "Enjoy the puppet show" at the end of their set, supposedly a dig at Depeche Mode. Find all info and material on the Sisters Of Mercy's performance on [http://sisterswiki.org/Sat,_31-Jul-1993 their fan Wiki.]


Here is Daryl Bamonte's entry for the famous [[Devotional/Exotic Tour Diary|Devotional Tour Diary]], published in Bong magazine in 1994:
Here is Daryl Bamonte's entry for the famous [[Devotional/Exotic Tour diary|Devotional Tour diary]], published in Bong magazine in 1994:
<blockquote>
<blockquote>
''Crystal Palace. Finally home after 3 months. 36,000+ people at this show, 1,000 with passes, and I know all of them, so backstage was chaos. My son had a good day. He definitely preferred DUB SYNDICATE to THE SISTERS OF MERCY. I used to think that ANDREW ELDRITCH was really cool. A god-like quasi-Darth Vader figure. He’s actually like RIGSBY.''
''Crystal Palace. Finally home after 3 months. 36,000+ people at this show, 1,000 with passes, and I know all of them, so backstage was chaos. My son had a good day. He definitely preferred DUB SYNDICATE to THE SISTERS OF MERCY. I used to think that ANDREW ELDRITCH was really cool. A god-like quasi-Darth Vader figure. He’s actually like RIGSBY.''
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=== Overdubs ===
=== Overdubs ===


It appears that Dave's vocals for the prepared FM broadcast of this concert are overdubs from the concert filmed two nights prior at [[1993-07-29 Stade Couvert Régional, Liévin, France]], with some gaps filled with vocals presumed to be from Crystal Palace. Examples of such fills which presumably use Crystal Palace audio would be the vast majority of Dave's banter and shouts during and between songs, some sections from Liévin where Dave did not sing the chorus (for instance, the first chorus of [[Stripped]] where the "proper" chorus vocal is fairly obviously different sounding), and the ending of [[Everything Counts]] with the memorable audience singalong, to give the impression of a different concert. This can be further confirmed by comparing against the two available audience recordings below, though the comparison may be challenging because both audience recordings play too fast. Whether the music, Martin's vocals on [[Judas]], and backing vocals in general were also reused from Liévin is yet to be determined.
It appears that Dave's vocals for the prepared FM broadcast of this concert were the same overdubs which were used for the 'Devotional' concert film, which uses audio from the [[1993-07-29 Stade Couvert Régional, Liévin, France]] concert. Some gaps were filled with vocals presumed to be from Crystal Palace. Examples of such fills, which presumably use Crystal Palace audio, include the vast majority of Dave's banter and shouts during and between songs. Additionally, there are some sections where Dave did not sing the chorus in Liévin (for instance, the first chorus of [[Stripped]] in the Crystal Palace recording, where the "real" chorus vocal is noticeably different from the verse). The ending of [[Everything Counts]] with the memorable audience singalong is another instance where vocals were added to give the impression of a different concert. This can be further confirmed by comparing against the two available audience recordings below. It is yet to be determined whether the music and backing vocals in general were also reused from Liévin.


Comparisons of audio of several songs between the Crystal Palace FM broadcast in the left channel, and soundboard audio from Liévin in the right channel, can be heard below. Note that time synchronization may not be completely perfect, so the audio may "drift" apart slightly as the excerpt goes on.
Comparisons of audio for several songs between Crystal Palace and Liévin can be heard below.
 
*Condemnation
**Crystal Palace plays first, then Liévin; then both are played together in mono, and then separately in stereo, with Crystal Palace on the left and Liévin on the right. This particular sample is approximately volume-matched.
<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/cp-lievin-condemnation.mp3</html5media>
 
The below samples are not as thoroughly created as the sample for Condemnation. They exhibit the Crystal Palace FM broadcast in the left channel, and soundboard audio from Liévin in the right channel simultaneously. Note that time synchronization may not be completely perfect, so the audio may "drift" apart slightly as the excerpt goes on. Volume-matching was also not employed for these samples.


*Walking In My Shoes (first verse)
*Walking In My Shoes (first verse)
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<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/cp-lievin-halo.m4a</html5media>
<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/cp-lievin-halo.m4a</html5media>


*Condemnation
*Condemnation (first and second verses)
<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/cp-lievin-condemnation.m4a</html5media>
<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/cp-lievin-condemnation.m4a</html5media>
*Judas
**Thanks to '''InterestedPie''' on Home for creating this sample.
<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/cp-lievin-judas.mp3</html5media>


*Rush
*Rush
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<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/cp-lievin-comparison.m4a</html5media>
<html5media>https://media.dmlive.wiki/stream/cp-lievin-comparison.m4a</html5media>


It is evident that Dave's vocals from Liévin were used to prepare the FM broadcast recording.
It is evident that Dave's vocals which were used to prepare the 'Devotional' soundtrack were also used to prepare this FM broadcast recording.


== Set list ==
== Set list ==
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== Sources ==
== Sources ==


*[[1993-07-31 Crystal Palace Sports Ground, London, England, UK/Source 1|Source 1]] is a very good sounding FM broadcast recording and is the most complete version available to date.
*[[1993-07-31 Crystal Palace Sports Ground, London, England, UK/Source 1|Source 1]] is a very good sounding soundboard-quality recording created from a BBC2 Sounds 320kbps M4A stream, with missing songs added from an FM rebroadcast DAT master recording.
*[[1993-07-31 Crystal Palace Sports Ground, London, England, UK/Source 2|Source 2]] is Cyberbio's good audience recording, though it would benefit from a better transfer.
*[[1993-07-31 Crystal Palace Sports Ground, London, England, UK/Source 2|Source 2]] is Cyberbio's good audience recording, though it would benefit from a better transfer.
*[[1993-07-31 Crystal Palace Sports Ground, London, England, UK/Source 3|Source 3]] is Phong Ng's decent audience recording sourced from a first-generation tape; it plays a bit fast and is somewhat muffled.
*[[1993-07-31 Crystal Palace Sports Ground, London, England, UK/Source 3|Source 3]] is Phong Ng's decent audience recording sourced from a first-generation tape; it is somewhat muffled.


== Ticket scan ==
== Ticket scan ==
<gallery>
<gallery>
File:T-1993-07-31.jpg|right|thumb|x240px|'''Credit to Stealth71'''.
File:T-1993-07-31.jpg|right|thumb|x240px|'''Credit to Stealth71'''.
File:1993-07-31 Crystal Palace Ticket Stub.jpg|left|thumb|x240px|'''Unused ticket stub, credit to Vince Dome'''.
File:T-1993-07-31-1.jpg|left|thumb|x240px|'''Unused ticket stub, credit to Vince Dome'''.
</gallery>
</gallery>
[[Category:Ticket scan]]
== References ==
== References ==



Latest revision as of 09:14, 4 January 2024

Notes

Ticket scan credit to Stealth71.

Fourteen out of nineteen songs from the concert were originally broadcast on BBC Radio 1 on 1993-08-30.[1][2] There were two different broadcasts, one of which included Walking In My Shoes, which was not featured in the other broadcast. Steve Lyon confirmed that he mixed the audio for this FM broadcast in Dublin, simultaneously with the audio mix for the 'Devotional' video release.[3]

According to BONG magazine issue #22, 36,131 people were at this show. You can watch a special video about this concert on the official site archives here. You can read some concert reports from the July 28 - August 4, 1993 issue of "Time Out" magazine here.

Dave standing on the barrier.

Dave said something like "We bought the full moon commissioned especially for you vampires tonight. Only joking, cost too much [laughs]" upon seeing the full moon; he also said "I'll need a little help with this one (Stripped). You should know the words by now", but then when nobody sang along he said "Oh, come on"; then during I Feel You he said "Now I can hear you! ... just takes a while sometimes, you know!" [4] Furthermore, Dave also said "At least its not fucking raining" after World In My Eyes as well as "Let's hear you make some fucking noise" at the beginning of Never Let Me Down Again. Dave also climbed on the front barrier during Enjoy The Silence.[5] This was the third time that One Caress (with string quartet) was played on this tour.

Sunscreem, Dreadzone, Dub Syndicate, Marxmen and Sisters Of Mercy were the support acts. The Sisters Of Mercy famously said to the crowd "Enjoy the puppet show" at the end of their set, supposedly a dig at Depeche Mode. Find all info and material on the Sisters Of Mercy's performance on their fan Wiki.

Here is Daryl Bamonte's entry for the famous Devotional Tour diary, published in Bong magazine in 1994:

Crystal Palace. Finally home after 3 months. 36,000+ people at this show, 1,000 with passes, and I know all of them, so backstage was chaos. My son had a good day. He definitely preferred DUB SYNDICATE to THE SISTERS OF MERCY. I used to think that ANDREW ELDRITCH was really cool. A god-like quasi-Darth Vader figure. He’s actually like RIGSBY.

Overdubs

It appears that Dave's vocals for the prepared FM broadcast of this concert were the same overdubs which were used for the 'Devotional' concert film, which uses audio from the 1993-07-29 Stade Couvert Régional, Liévin, France concert. Some gaps were filled with vocals presumed to be from Crystal Palace. Examples of such fills, which presumably use Crystal Palace audio, include the vast majority of Dave's banter and shouts during and between songs. Additionally, there are some sections where Dave did not sing the chorus in Liévin (for instance, the first chorus of Stripped in the Crystal Palace recording, where the "real" chorus vocal is noticeably different from the verse). The ending of Everything Counts with the memorable audience singalong is another instance where vocals were added to give the impression of a different concert. This can be further confirmed by comparing against the two available audience recordings below. It is yet to be determined whether the music and backing vocals in general were also reused from Liévin.

Comparisons of audio for several songs between Crystal Palace and Liévin can be heard below.

  • Condemnation
    • Crystal Palace plays first, then Liévin; then both are played together in mono, and then separately in stereo, with Crystal Palace on the left and Liévin on the right. This particular sample is approximately volume-matched.

The below samples are not as thoroughly created as the sample for Condemnation. They exhibit the Crystal Palace FM broadcast in the left channel, and soundboard audio from Liévin in the right channel simultaneously. Note that time synchronization may not be completely perfect, so the audio may "drift" apart slightly as the excerpt goes on. Volume-matching was also not employed for these samples.

  • Walking In My Shoes (first verse)

  • Walking In My Shoes (second verse)

  • Halo

  • Condemnation (first and second verses)

  • Judas
    • Thanks to InterestedPie on Home for creating this sample.

  • Rush

  • Everything Counts

It is evident that Dave's vocals which were used to prepare the 'Devotional' soundtrack were also used to prepare this FM broadcast recording.

Set list

  1. Intro
  2. Higher Love
  3. Policy Of Truth
  4. World In My Eyes
  5. Walking In My Shoes
  6. Behind The Wheel
  7. Halo
  8. Stripped
  9. Condemnation
  10. Judas (*)
  11. One Caress (*)
  12. Mercy In You
  13. I Feel You
  14. Never Let Me Down Again
  15. Rush
  16. In Your Room
  17. Personal Jesus
  18. Enjoy The Silence
  19. Fly On The Windscreen
  20. Everything Counts

Sources

  • Source 1 is a very good sounding soundboard-quality recording created from a BBC2 Sounds 320kbps M4A stream, with missing songs added from an FM rebroadcast DAT master recording.
  • Source 2 is Cyberbio's good audience recording, though it would benefit from a better transfer.
  • Source 3 is Phong Ng's decent audience recording sourced from a first-generation tape; it is somewhat muffled.

Ticket scan

References